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Oren Koules Hypes Up Saw IV

Published June 25, 2007 in Movie News
By Fred Topel | Image property of Lionsgate.
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Everyone talks about the endings of Saw movies, at least among those who have seen them. People preserve the shockers for new viewers. But with producers already touting Saw IV as the best twist yet, isn't that overhyping it a bit? Producer Oren Koules is not worried.

Oren Koules Talks Saw IV


"I don't think there's too much emphasis but one of the things we set down, we set down a list of rules," said Koules. "One of the things we said is we love the way Saw I ended where you get to see the fans' faces and when Jigsaw started rising, people were like, 'Oh my God.' We used to watch them. So we want to have a great ending again. It's one of the things we worked from the ending back. We knew where we wanted to end it."

Without spoiling the surprises, fans do want to know how Jigsaw can come back to terrorize more victims after his demise in Saw III. "It's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, we're not jumping the shark at all. I'd almost like to someday put up a money back guarantee. If you think we cheated you, come get your money. But all I'm going to say is, if you realize in one a little bit but a lot in two and a lot in three, we're messing around with time. That continues here. There's a big time mess with."

Koules has pushed to produce one movie a year to keep his Halloween release date. "I think Halloween became such a cool thing, like an annual that we'll do them. We weren't going to do one this year if we didn't get the script right and we got very lucky and we all met at Sundance in January and got the script right. And it really works. In some ways this is our best script we've ever had."



That's right, even Koules would have taken a break from the moneymaker if the script had not worked. "We were going to take a year off this year and James [Wan] and Leigh [Whannell] and Mark [Burg] and all of us, I had an idea last year that Leigh and I actually worked on when Leigh was shooting Saw III as an actor. Basically Leigh and I came up with an idea, then we worked off that idea and started playing and playing and playing and so we got to work."

With new screenwriters on board, the franchise gets reinvigorated. "They're huge fans. And I don't mean that they're monster fans. They literally knew a scene, like, 'Do you remember when he did…' and you're like, 'Whoa, yeah.' They're great writers but they're fans of the series. Leigh and James are still very much involved. We still run ideas by James. One of the traps, James almost fainted he said when he imagined it. Leigh was involved in breaking the story unbelievably well."

Despite horror sequels like Hostel: Part II suffering at the box office, Koules is not worried about Saw IV. "I think summer is tough. I look at what's coming, it's the second week of Knocked Up, the third week of Pirates, Shrek. You've still got Spider-Man in theaters. I like our fall date. We're at Halloween, which traditionally is not a great date. People don't mess with us, everyone stays out of the way. I think the summer's crowded. I think it's just tough. That's a decision that Eli and those guys made but summer is scary to me."

Saw IV will arrive this Halloween.

Stay tuned for updates.


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